The Current

The Current

Three stories to expand your worldview, delivered daily. Matt Galloway cuts through a sea of choice to bring you stories that transcend the news cycle. Conversations with big thinkers, household names, and people living the news. An antidote to algorithms that cater to what you already know — and a meeting place for diverse perspectives. In its 20 years, the Current has become a go-to place for stories that shape and entertain us. Released daily, Monday to Friday.


The Current is produced in Toronto, Ontario, Canada — and has recently recorded live shows about the Canadian election in Surrey and Burnaby BC. And shows to come in Oshawa and the 905, Red Deer, Alberta, Quebec City and Halifax.

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Host Rebecca Zandbergen interviews author Ian Bogos about his book, 'The Small Stuff,' exploring the importance of finding gratification in small, sensory moments. The conversation examines how modern automation and digitization have led to a 'dematerialization' of our lives, disconnecting us from physical engagement with the world. The episode discusses shifting from a goal-oriented mindset to one focused on sensory connection, using phenomena like ASMR as an example of normalizing presence in the moment. Ultimately, Bogos suggests that finding contentment does not require a different life, but rather a slightly different way of living the life we already have.

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And the kind of delight that it delivers is different from happiness. I call it gratification.

00:02:29 · Bogos distinguishes between long-term happiness and the immediate sensory pleasure found in small moments.

We've been disconnected from the physical world and we didn't notice it happening

00:07:11 · The author explains how technological and bureaucratic automation has subtly removed our physical engagement with the world.

What's interesting to me about these ASMR creators is that they're kind of like reintroducing, like millions of people watch this stuff, and they're reintroducing the world to the idea that that connection, that tactile sensory connection with ordinary life is valuable and is worthwhile and is okay and normal.

00:15:38 · The speaker discusses how ASMR helps normalize finding pleasure in simple, everyday sensory experiences.

But what are you doing with your time if not living in your body in the world? The time was going to pass anyway, and there you are doing all the things that you're doing to get to happiness and outcomes now. you might as well experience those moments along the way because otherwise you miss them.

00:21:27 · The speaker challenges the idea that sensory enjoyment is a waste of time by suggesting we should embrace it while we wait for our goals.

So what, one way I think about this is like, you don't need a different life. You just need a slightly different way of living the life you already have.

00:24:22 · The speaker concludes that gratification can be achieved through a shift in perspective rather than a total lifestyle change.

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Basking in the "Small Stuff" can make a big difference

Host Rebecca Zandbergen interviews author Ian Bogos about his book, 'The Small Stuff,' exploring the importance of finding gratification in small, sensory moments. The conversation examines how modern automation and digitization have led to a 'dematerialization' of our lives, disconnecting us from physical engagement with the world. The episode discusses shifting from a goal-oriented mindset to one focused on sensory connection, using phenomena like ASMR as an example of normalizing presence in the moment. Ultimately, Bogos suggests that finding contentment does not require a different life, but rather a slightly different way of living the life we already have.

15 ต.ค. 2026
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What time is it in Canada?

An episode of The Current Podcast featuring an interview with Joseph DeConinck, Emeritus Professor at the University of Ottawa, regarding the physiological and practical implications of daylight saving time. As various Canadian provinces prepare for upcoming clock changes, the discussion explores how shifting light towards the evening affects the human biological clock, sleep research, and health outcomes. The conversation examines the evolutionary necessity of morning light for synchronization and addresses the potential negative impacts on productivity, school children, and economic factors like air conditioning usage. DeConinck references historical precedents in Russia and the United States to argue against permanent shifts to daylight saving time.

15 ต.ค. 2026
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Black Hawk down

The Canadian government's decision to pause a multi-billion dollar deal for American-made Black Hawk helicopters has sparked debate over whether the move is a strategic political maneuver during sensitive trade negotiations or a failure to provide necessary military equipment. Experts weigh the implications of this pause against the backdrop of shifting U.S. political landscapes and the potential risks of long-term indecision in procurement. The discussion further explores the deep-seated cultural and institutional reliance of the Canadian armed forces on the United States, noting that maintaining interoperability requires navigating a changing bilateral relationship. Speakers address the potential for increased protectionism in the U.S. and the historical pattern of Canadian indecision regarding major military purchases like the F-35.

15 ต.ค. 2026
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Is the U.S. sliding into competitive authoritarianism?

Host Rebecca Zandbergen interviews Professor Lucan Wei about the United States' transition into a system of 'competitive authoritarianism.' The discussion explores the weaponization of state institutions like the Department of Justice and the FCC to target political rivals, as well as the implications of reducing the independence of the federal bureaucracy. The episode further examines how mass firings in the US civil service undermine employment guarantees and whether the overt nature of current authoritarian trends might trigger a significant popular reaction from the general population.

15 ต.ค. 2026
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Mastering “The Art of Fighting”

This episode of The Current Podcast explores the nature of conflict through personal anecdotes and an interview with author Priya Parker. It examines different approaches to tension, ranging from avoidance to 'healthy heat,' and discusses how digital communication can exacerbate or hinder constructive disagreement. The speakers also discuss the importance of developing healthy conflict tools, using examples from the TV series 'The Bear' and personal anecdotes to illustrate managing tension without escalation. Finally, they explore navigating deep-seated organizational conflicts and the value of sharing complex family narratives to build resilience.

14 ต.ค. 2026